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The (VERY CHEAP) Yen And The (VERY LARGE) Carry Trade

The (VERY CHEAP) Yen And The (VERY LARGE) Carry Trade

Executive Summary

This analysis looks at the current undervaluation of the Japanese yen and considers the potential effects of unwinding the yen-funded carry trade on global markets. It discusses how changes in monetary policy, narrowing interest rate differentials, and the possibility of yen appreciation could affect Japanese equities, corporate profitability, and asset prices. This insight provides context for investors who want to be aware of market risks that might impact their strategies moving forward.

By: Ray Wicklander, CFA®, CPA
Managing Director, Portfolio Manager & Senior Equity Analyst,
Great Lakes Advisors

After three years of extremely strong returns for equity markets, it seems downright quaint to be talking about risks, but here we are. Aside from the obvious and large issues of fiscal & monetary profligacy and geopolitics, one of the more significant near-term risks to us is yen appreciation and an unwind in the yen-funded “carry trade.”

Currency forecasting is out of our comfort zone (we are bottom-up equity investors), but we cannot help but notice that the yen is cheap – very cheap – on many measures, and some of the reasons for that cheapness are dissipating. This is relevant to us as investors in Japanese equities, where the yen’s level has a significant impact on the profitability of certain sectors, and the market has become more bifurcated than usual between sectors that are weak yen beneficiaries (net exporters) and more domestically focused ones. However, given the size of the yen-funded “carry trade” globally, yen appreciation and carry trade unwind is relevant to all global asset prices.

Beginning with the yen’s cheapness, on any traditional standard, the currency appears significantly undervalued. The Big Mac Index is our favorite (simple, intuitive proxy for Purchasing Power Parity (“PPP”), covering many different price inputs: rent, labor, commodities, and so forth), and currently shows the yen at about a 45% discount to fair value, around the widest it has ever been. See chart below. Other, fancier PPP models like the OECD’s model show a similar result. 

Big Mac Index Chart
Source: The Economist, Bloomberg

What these theorical valuations miss is how highly unconventional monetary policy can affect FX levels. Starting in late 2011 with Governor Shirakawa and continued in earnest and in much larger size by his successor Kuroda, the Bank of Japan (“BoJ”) set upon a strategy of aggressive monetary easing policy, under the direction of PM Abe (this was the first of Abe’s “three arrows” of “Abenomics”). The goal was to defeat the deflationary mindset once and for all in Japan, and in fact, achieve a 2% inflation rate with weaking of the yen as an explicit goal. A major component of this approach with using the central bank’s balance sheet – in 2011 the size of the BoJ’s balance sheet compared to nominal GDP was very close to that of the Fed’s, today it is over five times as large. Real interest rates were also suppressed, in large part due to large-scale BoJ purchases of JGBs. So, the yen got very cheap, the policy worked...

However, the drivers of the yen’s cheapness are starting to evaporate. As yen interest rates have increased (at both ends of the curve), interest rate differentials between USD and JPY have narrowed considerably. Also, the relative size of the central banks’ balance sheets also appears to be past peak for the BoJ, given the BoJ under current governor Ueda has embarked on tapering over the course of 2025, and the Fed’s overall shrinkage appears to have stopped. Please see the following two charts. These factors, combined with the weight of valuation gravity, make the yen susceptible to sharp appreciation, in our view. 

Valuation Gravity Chart
Source: Bloomberg, GLA

The yen is a very real driver of corporate profitability in Japan, but in a disparate way. Some sectors, like Industrials, are heavily export focused, meaning there is a disproportionate amount of expenses in yen as compared to sales in “hard” currencies like the dollar. So, for an exporter, when the yen depreciates, all else equal, margins expand. (Note: 20 years ago, it’d be unthinkable to refer to the yen as anything other than a hard currency, and “hard” is only relative nowadays, given all major currencies have depreciated substantially versus precious metals).

The opposite is also true for more domestically focused companies, like Consumer Staples. These companies have COGS that are comparatively more tied to global commodities (usually USD-linked), while revenues are more yen-based. Yen depreciation, for these companies, usually means margin contraction. The charts below show the total return for the Industrials and Consumer Staples sectors from 2011-2025 (i.e., covering the period of significant yen weakness versus the dollar), separated into earnings growth and multiple change. Industrials earnings, margins, and multiples have expanded at a meaningfully higher rate than the more domestically-focused Staples sector.

Industrials Chart
Source: MSCI, Bloomberg, GLA Analysis

This sensitivity is reflected in the volatility and correlation of these sectors as well, with the beta of the Industrials sector (again, a proxy for exporters) being substantially higher than that of the Staples group (a proxy for more domestically-focused companies). Importantly, this gap has gotten much wider since Kuroda’s “bazooka” policy to weaken the yen and reflate the Japanese economy, leaving the market today feeling especially disjointed, a market of “haves” and “have-nots”, depending on which way the yen is moving. Please see below.

TPX Index Chart
Source: GLA

The “carry trade” has always been enigmatic to me, because, again, forex and rates are not my day job, but also mainly because there are so many second- and third-order impacts that are difficult to process and link effect to cause. Essentially, the forex direct version of the trade is borrowing in a low-yield currency (i.e., shorting JGBs) and investing in higher-yielding assets. This works well when the funding currency (yen, in this example) is stable, and works very well when it depreciates, as the yen has the past 15 years. Add in some leverage (FX vol is so much lower than other asset classes, so everything in currency land is usually fairly leveraged) and returns to the carry trade have been significant recently.

Attractive returns attract capital. Estimates for the size of carry trade range from $1 trillion (direct) to $20 trillion (indirect). Significant amounts, either way.

It is well documented that Japan is highly leveraged at the governmental level, but what is often unappreciated is how asset- and savings-rich the nation is at the governmental level, but particularly at households. And this is where the carry trade starts, in my view. The chart below, from the BoJ, shows fully 50% of Japanese household savings resides in bank accounts, clearly a legacy of deflation, under which cash has a high real rate of interest. These deposits fund loans, securities purchases, and central bank deposits by commercial banks, which in turn funds the JGB market, and so on to the yen/JGB-funded carry trade and its many higher-order derivations/machinations. 

Household Savings
Source: BoJ (as of August 2025)

The Japanese Trading Companies (“Sogo Shosha”) provide a good example of the indirect carry trade. These companies, recently popularized in the U.S., courtesy of Berkshire Hathaway’s large investment in them (we’ve invested in one of them since strategy inception as well), own effectively dollar-denominated, hard assets (often in commodities), funded (to varying degrees) by yen debt and equity. This makes them highly sensitive to yen movements, among the highest in the market, with betas of around -1 (meaning that if the yen is down 1%, these companies, all else equal, would be up 1%). See below. [Berkshire took things one step further by issuing long-term yen-denominated debt – at a blended 1.0% coupon – to fund the cost basis of the investments in the Trading Companies, so has benefitted all the more from the weak yen.]

Batas Chart
Source: GLA

Please notice the pronounced trough in beta in July & August 2024 in the chart above: this was a sharp yen appreciation, about 10% in less than a month, that caused a meaningful correction in Japanese equity prices, just over 20%, and more than that in yen-sensitive sectors. To us, this serves as a template (on a small-ish scale) of what a “strong yen, carry unwind” scenario may look like, and we are increasingly stress-testing the portfolio against scenarios like this, both hypothetical and historical. Most especially, these risks loom large in our mind when underwriting on a bottom-up basis (i.e., understanding and stressing what is normalized profitability for a heavily yen-exposed company).

What is harder to estimate is the indirect, the impact on non-yen interest rates and equities, both of which have clearly benefitted from the carry trade and inundation of cheap money. Though carry trades have a long history of disorderly unwinds, we have no clairvoyance about when or even if this will happen. As risk managers, it is our job to be attuned and prepared.


Ray Wicklander, III is a Portfolio Manager on the Fundamental Equity Team for our Strategic Large Cap Value and Global and International Value strategies. Ray has 18 years of international investment experience, and he is also a member of our Multi-Asset Strategy investment team.  Ray holds a BBA from the University of Notre Dame and an MSc from the London School of Economics. He also holds the CPA (registered CPA, state of Illinois) and CFA® designations. Ray is a member of the Finance and Investment Committees of the Board of Trustees of Fenwick High School, an Advisory Board and Investment Committee member at Misericordia Home and Foundation, and a board member at DePaul University’s Institute for Business & Professional Ethics.

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